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Alexandra Macauda: hi everyone, welcome to our Canadian public sector webinar I am Alexandra i'll be the emcee today we're just going to give it a minute and let a few other registrants hop on so we'll begin momentarily.
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Alexandra Macauda: hi everyone is to be have some more people joining and Thank you everyone, welcome to the Canadian public sector webinar my name is Alexandra and I will be your MC during this session.
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Alexandra Macauda: Now I would like to introduce our panelists for today's webinar miles miles Brown is the senior cloud and devops advisor at tech data exit certified.
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Alexandra Macauda: He has over 20 years experience in the IT industry across a variety of platforms.
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Alexandra Macauda: he's recognized as aws authorized instructor champion and a Google cloud platform professional architect instructor miles has been delivering award winning authorized IT training for the biggest cloud providers so with that said miles.
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Alexandra Macauda: Please take it away.
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Myles Brown: Thanks Alexandra.
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Myles Brown: So we have a you know upwards of an hour today to to talk about the cloud, I think we called it, the cloud comparison 2022.
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Myles Brown: State of aws Microsoft azure and Google cloud, so this is sort of what I thought we would do for an outline talk a little bit about the models of cloud services will kind of workloads people run in the cloud.
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Myles Brown: And then get into a bit of a overview of the various for at least the big three public cloud providers and try and make the case for each one.
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Myles Brown: would have, what do they do well, what do they not do so well and then we'll talk a little bit about hybrid and multi cloud architectures and.
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Myles Brown: What I would finish up with is this idea that when when you move to the cloud it's it's generally not just Oh, I need to go take some classes in aws or azure.
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Myles Brown: there's usually a lot going on, when you do a cloud transformation and and there's a whole bunch of different kinds of technologies.
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Myles Brown: And, and you know practices that you might be embracing all at once, so to take a look at some of the things that commonly happen when people move to the cloud and.
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Myles Brown: Exit certified we're training company, so we tried to sort of.
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Myles Brown: build one diagram called the cloud centric diagram to show you know, in the middle you've got yes classes authorized classes from the.
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Myles Brown: Public cloud vendors, but around that there's this whole ecosystem of technologies and practices that you may need to learn not everybody needs to learn all of them, but we'll take a look at what's what's out there.
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Myles Brown: So we'd start with the models of cloud services, you may have heard these terms before infrastructure as a service platform as a service software as a service.
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Myles Brown: If you haven't it's basically trying to describe.
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Myles Brown: whose responsibility is it for taking care of part of that it stack so before the cloud, you are running on premises in your own data centers everything was on you to manage.
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Myles Brown: Right, so if you say something like a database, you had to you know, have to have the servers and the networking and everything.
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Myles Brown: And, and then you had to install and patch and maintain an operating system and then install the database on top of that patch that and take backups and you know all all this stuff involved in administration.
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Myles Brown: When you move to the cloud at the very first level of the cloud is what some people call infrastructures of service.
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Myles Brown: that's where we say just give me a virtual machine and let me do what I want with the virtual machine right that's where most people start with the cloud they look at it and they say okay.
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Myles Brown: In aws it's called an easy to instance in in Google cloud and azure they just call them vm because that's what it is it's a virtual machine.
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Myles Brown: And so I say hey go launch a virtual machine that looks like this, and so everything up to and including the installation of the ios is done by the cloud vendor right.
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Myles Brown: And so you're going to get some Linux or windows machine that you're able to remote into if you want, you can ssh into Linux you can use RDP to get into to windows.
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Myles Brown: And then you've got an operating system that you have to maintain, but you can treat it, however, you always treated your your virtual machines right.
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Myles Brown: And so that's the first level of cloud the next level of cloud is what we might call pass or platform as a service.
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Myles Brown: And that's where the cloud vendor looks and says, maybe we can do more for you than just take care of the physical machines in our data centers.
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Myles Brown: Maybe we can take care of your operating system your file system installation of software take it up a notch.
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Myles Brown: So we're going to take a look at some different paths offerings and so that's really where most of these big three cloud vendors play is.
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Myles Brown: infrastructure as a service and platform as a service, now the highest level of cloud model is called software software as a service or SAS some people say.
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Myles Brown: And this is where something like salesforce.com where I don't really manage anything you know I might be able to tweak what the ui looks like a little bit and decide what reports I want.
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Myles Brown: But i'm not in charge of any of the hardware or the software or even you know where the data lives all of that is the cloud vendor.
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Myles Brown: And so, public cloud providers are usually focused on infrastructure as a service platform as a service, there are some things like you know Microsoft Office 365 or google's G suite or whatever they're calling it today.
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Myles Brown: Things like dropbox you know those are software as a service and we're not really going to talk too much about those were really concentrated on the infrastructure and platform as a service.
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Myles Brown: So a good example of a platform as a service is something like I need a relational database, you know, and so in the aws world they've got a service called RDS the relational database service.
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Myles Brown: And so what they do is, they say, for a small set of database engines, so they started with the two most popular.
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Myles Brown: Commercial databases Oracle and sequel server and the two most popular Open Source wants my sql postgres may set for this small set of database engines.
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Myles Brown: will be your DDA it's an interesting trade off right you're saying okay i'm gonna let it brainless algorithm at Amazon be my DDA what a trade off right.
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Myles Brown: I no longer have to do all those low level DDA duties, but I also don't really have control over the database like I normally would.
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Myles Brown: And so i'm sort of at the mercy of how they do administration and in the end i'm just a user.
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Myles Brown: I get a jd vc or an OTC driver, I can connect to the database created my tables decide on indexes and.
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Myles Brown: And where to put partitioning and things like that, but that's about it, I don't have any access to that virtual machine or the operating system on it.
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Myles Brown: And so it's an interesting trade off, not everybody likes it right, some people love this idea if he if you got a bunch of developers, not a lot of deviate town.
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Myles Brown: This will keep your database up and running and taking nightly backups and maybe doing you know, a second database that we're doing replication to do they can take care of all that.
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Myles Brown: But if you say no i've got very specific way I like to do things I don't want this well then that's fine you can just launched virtual machines and and install and configure and manage your database, the way you want.
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Myles Brown: So you got kind of the best of both worlds so that's an example of a pass offering from aws from another example for manager would be something like the azure APP service.
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Myles Brown: This makes it really easy if you're a.net developer and you've built an application, maybe you've got a.
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Myles Brown: you've got a zip up you know.net APP or web APP and you say hey I want to launch this but I don't want to really think about you know how many servers do we need and and when do we need to grow and shrink that cluster of machines.
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Myles Brown: I want azure to take care of the auto scaling high availability i'm just going to point them to okay here's my github.
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Myles Brown: repository where my code is go grab that and make a scalable web infrastructure for me.
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Myles Brown: So there's a lot of these kinds of platform as a service and what they really started to do is change, you know what is the role of the.
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Myles Brown: cloud vendor it's not just taking care of our data Center floors there they're providing more and more and there's sort of a newest model which you might call a function as a service or FAS i've also seen it called function platform as a service or F pass the gardener posit that.
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Myles Brown: And the idea here is it's very developer centric you say i'm a developer and i'm going to i'm going to build an application in an event driven way.
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Myles Brown: But I don't want to have to think about the servers out all right, I write some code I configure what is the event that causes this code to run.
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Myles Brown: And then I just paid for how long that code runs right so aws has really popularized this with with aws Lambda.
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Myles Brown: So developers provide code and configure the event that triggers it they don't worry about servers operating systems high availability deployment any of that and all they pay for is one millisecond increments of how long that function runs right.
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Myles Brown: Rather than saying okay I gotta launch X number of servers and think about Okay, well, I need to patch them over time, I need to.
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Myles Brown: Make sure that if one dies it gets replaced, you know I don't have to think about any of that.
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Myles Brown: And, of course, be over the years, you know, whenever one of the big three cloud vendors comes up with a good idea what happens everybody else says hey let's do that exact same thing so.
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Myles Brown: As your has add your functions Google cloud has Google cloud functions very, very similar concepts right.
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Myles Brown: So this idea of service is becoming very sexy right.
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Myles Brown: And that's one kind of way that people are using the cloud, but in general there's a few different kinds of workloads that you commonly see people use in the cloud so let's take a look at those what are organizations, what are people running in the cloud.
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Myles Brown: A lot of times you might start with the cloud just because you bought some off the shelf software that runs in azure right, so you say Okay, well, we got to get azure so we can run this software that sometimes people's you know introduction to the cloud.
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Myles Brown: But if you're really looking and saying no we're we're thinking about really dipping our toes into the cloud we're going to run some of our workloads in the cloud.
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Myles Brown: Well then, usually you start by taking some you know simple Apps maybe non mission critical Apps Devon test, maybe some simple web Apps that are sort of isolated you say let's move those to the cloud.
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Myles Brown: And sometimes we call it lift and shift where we just say let's take what we have running on our own data Center set up virtual machines that look the same in the cloud and just kind of block it over there.
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Myles Brown: The problem with that it gets your toes in the cloud right away, but you don't really get all the advantages.
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Myles Brown: Of the cloud, you know it probably is not designed, because it wasn't built for the cloud it's probably not going to get the same kind of scale and flexibility that their applications that are cloud native.
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Myles Brown: And so, a lot of companies, you know that we talked to over the last 678 years you know they started just by doing lift and shift and then they started to say now, we want to build Apps specifically for the cloud, and so, when we talk about cloud native Apps there's.
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Myles Brown: there's actually a consortium called the cloud native computing foundation, where they sort of set up here's what it means for an application be cloud native.
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Myles Brown: It usually means that we've designed it in a way, so that it can take full advantage of the cloud.
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Myles Brown: Now, one of the ways of the implement cloud native is by containerized applications, so you probably heard of docker containers.
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Myles Brown: docker really changed the game back in 2013 when it came out and made it easy to build a container where we've got the code and all its dependencies in a nice portable way.
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Myles Brown: I can run it on my laptop it runs the same as if I run it on my servers in my data Center or if I run an aws or azure Google cloud wherever.
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Myles Brown: And so what a lot of people do is they start to take a big monolithic Apps and break them up into microservices and they implement each microservice with little container.
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Myles Brown: And the problem then becomes, how do you keep track of hundreds or even thousands of these containers, we need some sort of orchestration tool.
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Myles Brown: And there's a few different orchestration tools out there for containers, but the one that sort of became the de facto standard is called Cooper daddy's so you've probably heard that term thrown around, and so a lot of people.
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Myles Brown: Especially if they're in a hybrid way where they're running some things in their own data centers and some things in the cloud.
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Myles Brown: By using Cooper 90s, you can sort of, say, well i've got kind of a consistent experience, no matter where I am.
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Myles Brown: And so that's that's a very popular way to to build cloud native Apps these days.
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Myles Brown: And the other one we mentioned already, is the idea of service architectures so a lot of companies, their entire.
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Myles Brown: goal of using the cloud is to say, you know what I never really liked doing a whole bunch of Linux administration in the first place, so, if I can cut that out.
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Myles Brown: If I can have sort of a web front end and then my business logic is implemented a bunch of these little service functions.
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Myles Brown: And then, it talks to some of manage databases in the back then you're looking across the whole stack music where, am I doing Linux or windows administration of not right that's very attractive for some companies, and so they might start with new applications in the cloud using servers.
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Myles Brown: Yes, the last kind of major workload that we see in the cloud is what once you have any of these Apps running in the cloud you realize that you're generating a lot of data.
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Myles Brown: right and it stored somewhere, you know centrally all the cloud vendors have some sort of a large cloud object storage blob storage.
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Myles Brown: And so it's it's nice central place where you grab all this data, you throw it all in one place, and you say hey now that I look at, I can see how much data I have in one place.
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Myles Brown: This is where I might want to be doing my analytics and so doing all kinds of analytics whether it's just.
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Myles Brown: You know, building a data warehouse with all this centralized data and then you know attaching bi tools and you know building dashboards and reports or whatever, or to go further and you get into machine learning and Ai and doing some really interesting data science on that data.
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Myles Brown: The cloud really fits well with the data, because you know we have this sort of unlimited scale in the cloud, which is really handy because you know when we get a lot of data.
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Myles Brown: You know, doing things in parallel across a bunch of machines is really the way to speed things up, and so you know that's another popular workload that people are running in the cloud.
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Myles Brown: Is is analytics so let's talk a little bit about the major public cloud providers will look at sort of the timeline of when they popped up things really got going with with aws back in 2006 although.
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Myles Brown: You could say that you know some of the services predated that but 2006 is when you see two, which is our main virtual machine and s3 came out and so that's that's when they spotted office its own company and said Okay, this is a problem.
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Myles Brown: So that makes it the most popular and the most mature they got such a head start because azure and Google cloud didn't come out till 2010 2011.
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Myles Brown: So aws enjoying quota, you know market share, because they got out for right now azure is the second most popular it's very popular with companies that are already at Microsoft shop.
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Myles Brown: Right, so if you're doing.net development using sequel server you don't do a lot of Linux you know it might be a no brainer that you go into azure because of some of those platform as a service that are really set up nicely for.net Apps and and running sequel server for you.
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Myles Brown: Google cloud is very popular with machine learning and artificial intelligence people and we'll see why, but it is not super popular across the board will look at sort of the numbers in a minute some other players in the in the field, or IBM cloud and Oracle cloud.
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Myles Brown: IBM cloud is made me popular if you're 100% IBM shop, you know you're just running IBM stuff in the cloud but otherwise I don't think it's all that great for.
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Myles Brown: Just general you know it stuff and or cloud kind of similar idea, so they came a little later and they're a little more niche.
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Myles Brown: Now there are a couple other big players in China, and so you see alibaba cloud and tencent cloud, are you know they pop on the worldwide magic quadrant thing that the gardener puts out of.
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Myles Brown: You know who are the leaders in public cloud, so this is the one from last year 2022 probably comes out in a month or do.
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Myles Brown: According to gartner aws continues to be the best in its ability to execute but azure and Google cloud have snuck up into that top right quadrant it took them years to get there, but they're there right.
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Myles Brown: And so that's a sort of you know what a gardener you know says is is is.
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Myles Brown: The best at executing their vision right, what about the numbers, you know.
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Myles Brown: here's you know i've seen numbers kind of like this, a few times they always somewhere in these ranges were 33% of the market is about aws 20 to 21% is as you're around 10% is Google cloud, and then a lot of other players, you know, certainly the Chinese players are very popular in China.
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Myles Brown: So that's you know I would say the average game quite a bit in the last five years they're really coming along.
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Myles Brown: But that's you know that that headstart that aws had is still you know, keeping them very popular now let's talk a little bit about the infrastructure that they have, I just want to get some terminology out there, so, then we can talk specifically about Canada what's there.
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Myles Brown: So in aws when they build a data Center they don't typically just build one they'll build a few right beside each other and then miles down the road they'll build another cluster of data centers right and each of the clusters is called an availability zone or easy.
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Myles Brown: The idea is that you know these agencies are far enough apart, that you know they.
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Myles Brown: They should be independently available from one another right so so the the cluster of machines that make up one az it could be just one minute one data Center could be a bunch there they look like one right.
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Myles Brown: But then miles down the road there's another availability zone and it's close enough together, then aws can put a very low latency high throughput lines between them right so we're talking.
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Myles Brown: All of the agencies that make up one region are definitely within 100 miles of one another right but but far enough apart that hopefully they are independent, if some disaster takes over this cluster of data centers this other one a few towns over should be safe yeah.
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Myles Brown: So what are we talking about they put them in different floodplains they put them on different sides of fault lines they try and attach them to different electricity Greens if they can they certainly have different independent power supplies and generators, and all that kind of thing.
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Myles Brown: Now aws currently has 26 regions around the world and we didn't notice there's a before availability zones.
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Myles Brown: And they have a map, you know if you click on this, this will take you to the the updated map that shows you, you know here's the ones that are here now are in green and the orange ones are coming soon, so we have one coming in Calgary soon we'll talk about that one minute.
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Myles Brown: In in azure they have this concept of regions and zones.
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Myles Brown: They have 59 regions, some of those are then decomposed into multiple zones that are the column a column zones, but sometimes in azure a region can be as small as one data Center.
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Myles Brown: So actually was able to get out there very quickly and get into many, many countries before anybody else could because sometimes their infrastructures, maybe just one data Center.
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Myles Brown: So the rooms are regions in the geographies that shared data residency sovereignty compliance things like that, and so they have a similar kind of global infrastructure page, you know, look at.
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Myles Brown: They talk a lot about the sustainability, they all kind of talk about that now, but if you go to the geographies.
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Myles Brown: You can look, you know for each one so starting here in Canada we've got two regions try them for that city, you know if you look at the US they've got a lot more obviously.
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Myles Brown: And so that's a little bit about you know to kind of a similar idea, although they might have a region that is not you know truly highly available can be just one data Center.
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Myles Brown: Google cloud basically used almost the exact same terminology same setup as as aws they have 34 regions, made up of 103 zones.
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Myles Brown: they're very vocal about the vast network infrastructure, where they talked about you know what kind of lines they have between these regions of moving data around and then they also have a.
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Myles Brown: similar kind of document, where they talked about the the regions and zones and you know they all kind of have the same kind of idea right.
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Myles Brown: So it's a little bit now, if we look specifically at Canada right now aws only has one region, and it opened up in late 2016 in Montreal or near Montreal this day.
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Myles Brown: it's got three az so it's a full blown region and there's another one coming soon now when they say coming soon and what they've advertised is probably late 2023 or early 2024.
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Myles Brown: And then, again, the fall, you know, three easy's on azure had to do regions back in 2016.
00:25:51.900 --> 00:25:57.690
Myles Brown: So they started wanting Toronto has three zones and they started, one of the big city, but it doesn't have his own.
00:25:58.260 --> 00:26:15.690
Myles Brown: So it's not what you know the other cloud vendors would call a region right it's very much a scaled down version of that Google cloud not to Canada, a little later they started with their Montreal region in 2018 and then just.
00:26:16.860 --> 00:26:28.140
Myles Brown: Just actually open the region so they're the only one that has like a full to region setup in Canada, right now, now, why would I want.
00:26:29.130 --> 00:26:40.050
Myles Brown: specifically to run my stuff in Canada well because data sovereignty laws, there are certain certain data that you must be held in Canada, or if you use the US region.
00:26:40.380 --> 00:26:47.670
Myles Brown: They wouldn't be the end of the world, maybe depending on your compliance, but maybe then that data is subject to the Patriot Act.
00:26:48.060 --> 00:26:54.930
Myles Brown: or something like that, where you're like i'm not comfortable with that right so so there's lots of reasons to pick a particular region.
00:26:55.320 --> 00:27:00.510
Myles Brown: Usually it's got to do with well first off you're picking a region to run your resources.
00:27:01.050 --> 00:27:05.970
Myles Brown: Probably based on latency right if all your customers are in Canada, most of them are in.
00:27:06.360 --> 00:27:19.260
Myles Brown: The east coast of Canada, well then you're probably gonna have it, a region somewhere in the East, so that very low latency if you're trying to do web Apps or whatever, so the the layton sees the first one, the data sovereignty laws is another one.
00:27:20.370 --> 00:27:33.780
Myles Brown: Not every region has every service, so you have to pick, one that has the right, services and then the pricing can differ from from one region to another, so you gotta you know a few things that go into deciding what region, where do you want to run things.
00:27:35.070 --> 00:27:41.790
Myles Brown: So, given all these choices, you know what what's the case for each cloud provider let's start with aws.
00:27:43.950 --> 00:27:54.690
Myles Brown: First off it's popular because it's popular right it's the oldest the most popular there's the most information out there on it there's the most practitioners if you're trying to hire somebody.
00:27:54.990 --> 00:28:02.700
Myles Brown: chances are they used it in college, you know they can they can know a little bit about aws sees your hire somebody that knows it.
00:28:03.990 --> 00:28:09.930
Myles Brown: I would say, and I don't have good numbers on this, but I used to have good numbers but.
00:28:10.980 --> 00:28:17.610
Myles Brown: All the companies that Kevin downtime or uptime numbers on the big cloud providers they're not doing it anymore.
00:28:18.690 --> 00:28:27.330
Myles Brown: it's so hard to find this information, but it seems to me that aws has the least amount of downtime now they have the most.
00:28:28.500 --> 00:28:38.460
Myles Brown: Public failures, because when aws is down half the Internet is down right, and so in 2021 there was a couple things that happened and then one big one.
00:28:38.730 --> 00:28:49.980
Myles Brown: In 2017 and then back in 2012 there was a big event, and so you know it only happens once in a while, but it's very high profile, because so many.
00:28:50.790 --> 00:29:09.390
Myles Brown: web companies are all in on aws that you know you'll notice a lot of websites aren't working today right, and so, but I would say that you know, on a day to day basis they seem to have the best uptime of all the all the three major vendors.
00:29:10.770 --> 00:29:17.520
Myles Brown: They can have the best overall breadth and depth of services over 200 plus services across you know everything you want.
00:29:18.750 --> 00:29:23.580
Myles Brown: they've got the most mature and popular service option which is aws Lambda.
00:29:25.020 --> 00:29:37.110
Myles Brown: Now, I mentioned that azure is really coming along so one of the reasons for that is that it's usually easy to embrace azure because a lot of enterprises already are using office 365.
00:29:37.620 --> 00:29:46.710
Myles Brown: So we're already in microsoft's cloud right and we already have some sort of enterprise agreements with them, and so we just add to that.
00:29:48.210 --> 00:29:52.650
Myles Brown: If you're a.net shop, I would say it's a no brainer they got a great pass offering for that.
00:29:53.700 --> 00:30:05.430
Myles Brown: As is very popular in hybrid organizations is something called the azure stack, so this is sort of a hardware and software that you can put in your own data Center and run the exact same manager services.
00:30:06.180 --> 00:30:16.380
Myles Brown: But run them in your own data Center rather than and so that might change things for compliance reasons now they're not alone in having some sort of a hybrid idea.
00:30:17.910 --> 00:30:28.650
Myles Brown: aws had something called leader, yes, I suppose, but it tends to be super expensive they they come in with a cheaper version but it's not taking off yeah.
00:30:30.600 --> 00:30:42.210
Myles Brown: And and Google cloud has something on hand, those which kind of helps with with that sort of the hybrid environment, but only if you're doing the lot Cooper nettie stuff so it's very specific.
00:30:44.340 --> 00:30:53.580
Myles Brown: Why azure well as got very popular because they had a presence in many countries before some of the others so specifically in Canada, they were the first ones here.
00:30:54.060 --> 00:31:05.880
Myles Brown: And they put out two regions in 2016 before aws was even up and running right, so they did capture some of that Canadian cloud market right away.
00:31:08.490 --> 00:31:13.710
Myles Brown: Why Google glass well if you're really into machine learning and artificial intelligence.
00:31:14.190 --> 00:31:22.290
Myles Brown: They do a pretty good job of that that everybody's got lots of services for for machine learning but Google cloud they build tensorflow like so.
00:31:22.650 --> 00:31:30.720
Myles Brown: At Google they do a lot of the innovation that come up with some some ideas they make it open source that gets popular so tensorflow they built it.
00:31:31.470 --> 00:31:39.540
Myles Brown: Based on their deep expertise of research and development into machine learning so obviously they do a pretty good job of managing tensorflow time.
00:31:40.170 --> 00:31:49.530
Myles Brown: machine learning environments, so they do the job that they also really cool bernays that was internally something at Google that was built and then open source.
00:31:49.950 --> 00:31:59.760
Myles Brown: And so they do a great job of managing Cooper daddy's, so there is a service they have called katie the Google Google Cooper daddy's engine.
00:32:00.660 --> 00:32:16.800
Myles Brown: But not to be left behind, as your as as the azure Cooper nettie service aws has ETS elastic Cooper nettie service, so they all have sort of the same stuff it's just who does who does what the best you know.
00:32:18.210 --> 00:32:23.640
Myles Brown: Google cloud probably has about the cheapest pricing, but when you're trying to compare pricing it's very difficult.
00:32:24.210 --> 00:32:35.820
Myles Brown: Because large organizations when they go into the cloud they usually negotiate some sort of an enterprise agreement and say hey we're going to spend this much a month you better give us a better rate than the retail rate right.
00:32:36.330 --> 00:32:45.780
Myles Brown: And so there's all kinds of volume discounts it's really hard to say which one's the cheapest but who tends to be that what I would say the downside of Google cloud.
00:32:46.710 --> 00:32:54.510
Myles Brown: Is that they tend to deprecate things a little more often than will certainly than aws when aws puts out a service.
00:32:54.900 --> 00:33:00.030
Myles Brown: they're going to continue to use it as long as customers are using it they're going to maintain that.
00:33:00.570 --> 00:33:15.150
Myles Brown: And I found that Google cloud has sort of changed directions, a few times over the years, and so, if you've got a lot of code written and all of a sudden, they change how they do things you're like oh i'm kind of left holding the bag so that's that's sort of a knock against Google cloud.
00:33:17.190 --> 00:33:23.700
Myles Brown: They do have answers for hybrid and multi cloud environments, but it's very much tied up with coo coo grenades so you better be doing that.
00:33:25.260 --> 00:33:35.580
Myles Brown: Now these days, the you know if you look across the the Canadian Federal Government, you know they they they basically say you can use.
00:33:36.150 --> 00:33:50.790
Myles Brown: Any of the five of us multiple clouds right if they're not tying you to just one and so it's probably worth talking a little bit about this concept of hybrid and multi cloud and and see what are people doing with that is it really a big deal.
00:33:52.320 --> 00:34:02.400
Myles Brown: So this is this is from last year, there was a reporter his company in FLEX era does a huge pool of lots of it managers and says hey what are you doing.
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:09.540
Myles Brown: And so they asked what percentage of people are doing sort of what you might call multi cloud and.
00:34:10.140 --> 00:34:16.350
Myles Brown: Multi cloud is kind of a misnomer here, maybe it means it could be multiple public clouds or it could mean.
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:28.920
Myles Brown: You have at least one public and one private cloud in your own on Prem data centers so you might set up vmware or something like that in your own data centers and then you still have that sort of on demand, you know.
00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:39.240
Myles Brown: provisioning of resources, so you call that private cloud, and so they said, very few people are doing just a single private cloud.
00:34:39.660 --> 00:34:46.890
Myles Brown: or just a single public cloud most people are in this sort of hybrid way and if you think about it, if i've already got data centers.
00:34:47.520 --> 00:34:56.760
Myles Brown: You can say hey we want to go to the cloud, you know you already paid for these data centers that's some costs right you want to leverage those if you can.
00:34:57.150 --> 00:35:07.740
Myles Brown: And so what you may use this the cloud for any new development and then over time, when your old data Center starts to get old equipment is end of life and you then you start looking and saying.
00:35:08.190 --> 00:35:14.310
Myles Brown: Do I want to replace this or do I just want to use the cloud more than that, now that I know how the cloud works.
00:35:14.580 --> 00:35:24.540
Myles Brown: You know, and so a lot of companies for the foreseeable future, are you in this hybrid environment where they're running some workloads in their own data centers and some in the cloud.
00:35:25.650 --> 00:35:28.710
Myles Brown: Not that many running multiple public clouds.
00:35:30.240 --> 00:35:37.260
Myles Brown: So hybrid cloud is easy, is a way to ease into the use of public cloud, but still leveraging your existing data Center investment.
00:35:38.100 --> 00:35:40.740
Myles Brown: One term you might run into something called cloud bursting.
00:35:41.250 --> 00:35:50.370
Myles Brown: is where you primarily run workloads in your private cloud, but then you use a lot utilize a public cloud provider when you need excess capacity right so.
00:35:50.790 --> 00:36:02.430
Myles Brown: Right now we're using zoom that's that's our platform that we use for webinars we also use zoom for our regular classes, although in a regular class it's different than this you're encouraged to keep your camera on, and you know to way kind of.
00:36:02.820 --> 00:36:12.720
Myles Brown: Like a real classroom we've been using zoom since they first came out in 2014, and so we talked to zoom early on and they told us they were running their own data centers.
00:36:13.140 --> 00:36:27.690
Myles Brown: But they use aws as a backup and then eventually they had to add in all kinds of public cloud providers as backup not as backup but as excess capacity and certainly as the pandemic started and.
00:36:28.770 --> 00:36:35.940
Myles Brown: You know a lot of people started using to you know they they definitely needed that excess capacity of public cloud.
00:36:37.290 --> 00:36:37.650
Myles Brown: Now.
00:36:39.120 --> 00:36:46.170
Myles Brown: When people really talk about hey we're multi cloud what they're probably saying is that we're using multiple public clouds right.
00:36:46.920 --> 00:37:06.060
Myles Brown: And there's different reasons for that right, one reason may be, I want to avoid vendor lock in right so there's this sort of idea that, if I can move my application standing cloud, then you know it's cloud ABC decides to change their pricing, well then I can go run it somewhere else.
00:37:07.470 --> 00:37:13.920
Myles Brown: That one's tough, because what ends up happening is, if you try and make an application that can run in any cloud.
00:37:14.670 --> 00:37:21.540
Myles Brown: Then you basically have to use the lowest common denominator, what are the basic features, if you think of the.
00:37:22.380 --> 00:37:30.420
Myles Brown: The cloud as just hey I need some computer some networking and some storage that's the basic features, then that's all you can really rely on.
00:37:30.870 --> 00:37:38.670
Myles Brown: You can use all the cool bells and whistles that they provide, because they kind of tend to lock you in a bit more, and so it's interesting.
00:37:39.300 --> 00:37:45.210
Myles Brown: What we do see, though, is running different workloads in different clouds to take advantage of the sweet spot.
00:37:45.510 --> 00:37:54.300
Myles Brown: Right i've seen a lot of customers who are basically an aws shop they run all the stuff in aws but their analytics people are running in Google cloud.
00:37:54.990 --> 00:38:06.090
Myles Brown: And so the end up moving all this data from from aws s3 storage into Google cloud and doing analytics there and so it's a you know it's an interesting idea.
00:38:07.560 --> 00:38:17.850
Myles Brown: It really helps you pick and choose the things you want right but very few organizations are really running hey i'm running the same workload in multiple clouds and.
00:38:18.420 --> 00:38:25.410
Myles Brown: If you do want to do that, there are some tools and frameworks that can help make your application a little more cloud agnostic.
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:32.370
Myles Brown: Right so using something like open shift open shift is a framework built on top of Cooper daddy's.
00:38:32.700 --> 00:38:39.720
Myles Brown: But it basically provides some of the Platform as a service that normally you would get from a cloud provider get it from the framework.
00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:53.970
Myles Brown: And so I can take this open shift application, I can run it in my own data Center I can run an aws up and run an address rather than Google cloud and it runs the same in all those places, and I still get some of those platform as a service.
00:38:56.130 --> 00:39:10.740
Myles Brown: Seeing you know advantages and walk but then i'm probably paying red hat for a license version of open shift all right so then there's got you got extra you know costs involved there so there's there's a few different.
00:39:12.390 --> 00:39:16.230
Myles Brown: technologies that can help us be a little more glam cloud agnostic.
00:39:19.290 --> 00:39:37.890
Myles Brown: This kind of brings me to this idea of hey when somebody says we're moving to the cloud, and you got to look and say okay well, what do we need to learn what is a cloud journey really it's really just i'm going to let you know this vendor take care of my data Center right.
00:39:38.970 --> 00:39:54.210
Myles Brown: The most basic concept is okay, instead of me running the data Center i'm going to let a company like aws or Microsoft or Google that's really good at running and building and scaling and securing data centers we're going to just run virtual machines from that.
00:39:54.630 --> 00:40:05.220
Myles Brown: right if that's all the cloud was we wouldn't be talking about it so much right it's generally a much bigger shit when you say hey we're moving to the cloud, what are we really doing.
00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:19.350
Myles Brown: A lot of times these days we're doing three things at once, so one is yes we're starting to use a public cloud provider and so we're probably going to have to learn, you know how do I launch a virtual machine in aws or azure or Google cloud right.
00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:26.940
Myles Brown: we're probably further embracing devops culture and tools right this idea of.
00:40:28.020 --> 00:40:32.820
Myles Brown: You know, building small cross functional teams is very, very popular these days.
00:40:33.210 --> 00:40:46.050
Myles Brown: and saying let's take this huge model is a gap and break it up into a bunch of microservices and then we'll have these small cross functional teams deploying and being in charge of this set of microservices.
00:40:47.010 --> 00:40:55.620
Myles Brown: And then having you implement those microservices is it with containers and Cooper daddy's or is it maybe service using Lambda API gateway or whatever.
00:40:56.490 --> 00:41:09.420
Myles Brown: And so, in the end, what we find is that moving to the cloud you mean having to learn all kinds of new skills and various technologies and so it's sort of one of those things that.
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:13.260
Myles Brown: You know, we say the.
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:19.560
Myles Brown: when somebody comes to me, you know I talked to a lot of customers and they say hey, we need to learn the cloud.
00:41:20.340 --> 00:41:28.770
Myles Brown: What do you really mean when you say and so as a training company, we said, well, we need to sort of show visually what does it mean.
00:41:29.190 --> 00:41:36.990
Myles Brown: To be you know move to the cloud what what could be involved in that, and so we built this diagram and call it cloud centric.
00:41:37.410 --> 00:41:53.490
Myles Brown: it's the technologies and practices that bring you all the cloud has to offer and Alexander just put a link in the in the chat, let me just click on that that takes us to the website our website where we talk about it and, in fact, let me just go download this PDF.
00:41:55.590 --> 00:41:59.760
Myles Brown: it's a it's very much an interactive PDF, let me just pull it over here.
00:42:01.140 --> 00:42:02.370
Myles Brown: Make it full screen.
00:42:03.750 --> 00:42:06.270
Myles Brown: view single each other.
00:42:07.980 --> 00:42:16.590
Myles Brown: And so what you see, is in the middle we've got public cloud train so exit certified partner with aws Google cloud Microsoft.
00:42:16.950 --> 00:42:23.700
Myles Brown: Oracle even IBM cloud right So if you want public cloud training from the vendor authorized training.
00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:37.260
Myles Brown: we've got that right, but the problem is that isn't the whole picture right if you are in this hybrid environment or in multi cloud environment whatever you're using vmware cloud on aws or vmware cloud on azure.
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:45.510
Myles Brown: What if you're using open shift or openstack or you know, whatever there's lots of tools out there for private and hybrid cloud or multi cloud.
00:42:46.110 --> 00:42:53.100
Myles Brown: And so we've got training on those so we're partnered with vmware where we're sort of the previous vmware partner in North America.
00:42:53.820 --> 00:43:08.100
Myles Brown: What about containers and cloud native well you just need sort of architecture training on microservices or do you want to know more specifically about containers and Cooper daddy's What about devops and agile techniques sure.
00:43:09.150 --> 00:43:19.650
Myles Brown: What about automation because a big part of devops is this idea that we want to automate things everything we do in the cloud is an API call that means everything can be scripted right.
00:43:20.070 --> 00:43:26.310
Myles Brown: So, setting up your whole infrastructure well every one of these cloud vendors has some sort of tool for.
00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:39.210
Myles Brown: A template and saying Okay, I need to set up a network that looks like this, and I want an auto scaling group of web servers that look like this and I need to run these databases and so you can build a big script right in aws.
00:43:39.810 --> 00:43:50.790
Myles Brown: cloud formation and azure we have something called arm azure resource manager and so you have to learn how to do it in each one or you go to sort of this cloud agnostic.
00:43:51.330 --> 00:44:02.190
Myles Brown: Third party tool called Tara form and Tara form you just learn one template in style and you can template things for private cloud with vmware or any of the public clouds.
00:44:02.670 --> 00:44:11.850
Myles Brown: So you only have to learn one way to do it so Tara form and simple, these are very popular infrastructure as code kind of tools, so we have training on those.
00:44:13.740 --> 00:44:25.950
Myles Brown: What about cloud security well every one of the cloud vendors has you know some heavy duty security classes, obviously, security is a focus when people move to the cloud But what if I wanted to go in and get some sort of.
00:44:28.200 --> 00:44:40.500
Myles Brown: cloud agnostic certification so there's the CIS SP that CCA SP there's some COM tia tia certifications and so we have courses to help prep for those.
00:44:41.460 --> 00:44:46.350
Myles Brown: We talked all about and, as we said once you got all this data in the cloud you're going to start doing analytics.
00:44:46.830 --> 00:45:05.130
Myles Brown: So analytics courses could be simple, as you know, bi tools like tablo or or IBM cognos power bi but also all that big data stuff learning spark we've got classes from cloud era and from tablet pen from database so we're partnered with all these different vendors.
00:45:06.210 --> 00:45:13.470
Myles Brown: Even newer ones like snowflake and so we've got a lot of different training, and so this is the idea is that you know.
00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:20.790
Myles Brown: when somebody comes to me and says, I need cloud training, I really got to get to the bottom of it and say, do you just want to learn.
00:45:21.210 --> 00:45:32.040
Myles Brown: Do you want to take a couple aws courses, or do you want to learn how to build cloud native Apps that run in the file and then maybe your analytics people need to learn more about cloud analytics stuff.
00:45:32.430 --> 00:45:43.470
Myles Brown: And so every one of these if you click on it like here I click on this one this takes me to the analytics training courses so there's courses from the major vendors and then it just keeps going on down.
00:45:44.670 --> 00:45:50.970
Myles Brown: So that's how we sort of organized our website around this this idea of this cloud centric diagram.
00:45:52.680 --> 00:45:56.400
Myles Brown: I don't have a lot of time left, so I wanted to.
00:45:57.540 --> 00:46:02.880
Myles Brown: Let Alexander talk a little bit about the promotion, that we have going so.
00:46:04.470 --> 00:46:18.570
Alexandra Macauda: Thanks miles so yeah we kicked off our summer this year it offers up to $500 off public training and up to $500 off per day for private training with the promo code summer 500.
00:46:19.050 --> 00:46:31.950
Alexandra Macauda: More than 25 leading vendors, such as aws vmware IBM ranches Microsoft and more are being offered at a discounted rate when you registered by August 29.
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:47.280
Alexandra Macauda: So the promotion details can be found at the summer promo link i've included all of the links on this slide into the chat for you to click on another thing to know you can see the aws training link, we are also hosting several aws.
00:46:47.310 --> 00:46:49.140
Alexandra Macauda: discovery days throughout.
00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:57.000
Alexandra Macauda: July, our first is on June 20 each discovery day will cover a different topic highlighting aws.
00:46:58.590 --> 00:47:07.500
Alexandra Macauda: aws best practices, excuse me, so if you click on the aws training link in the chat you can reserve your seat or the discovery days under.
00:47:08.670 --> 00:47:09.570
Alexandra Macauda: recommended training.
00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:20.760
Myles Brown: yeah so here if I click on this discovery day you see the price is free, but you can view the schedule, we have it coming up June 20 and so you can enroll that way.
00:47:22.290 --> 00:47:34.380
Myles Brown: So there's a few of these discovery days I think we're doing them on Mondays starting June 20 and then we have four of them scheduled and they're all sort of like a gentle introduction, but their aws specifics.
00:47:36.720 --> 00:47:39.510
Myles Brown: What else we have coming on, we have a webinar.
00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:49.710
Alexandra Macauda: We can share that in the chat now we have a cloud transformation webinar coming up that's not clickable link I can share that actually right now so.
00:47:49.770 --> 00:47:50.340
00:47:52.680 --> 00:47:55.530
Myles Brown: yeah this is from one of our instructors 10 krueger.
00:47:57.300 --> 00:48:15.780
Myles Brown: He built this for for something specific and I watched him I said this is amazing, this should be standard viewing for anybody who's starting into the cloud, and I said, we need to get him to redo it, you know, for you know publicly for for all of our customers, so when is it it's in July.
00:48:16.230 --> 00:48:19.950
Alexandra Macauda: July 9:11am it's one hour Eastern standard time.
00:48:20.370 --> 00:48:23.670
Myles Brown: yeah how to fail at cloud transformation it's pretty good one.
00:48:25.140 --> 00:48:36.240
Myles Brown: And then yeah like you said we've got aws azure Google training, I mean you can just go to our main page and click on cloud and you'll find all of them, but, but those are quick links if you're looking for specific stuff.
00:48:37.350 --> 00:48:48.720
Myles Brown: I would say that our biggest schedule is probably aws, you know as be fitting the market share, we have you know, probably the most popular class there's a one day tech essentials and the three day architect in class.
00:48:49.110 --> 00:49:04.170
Myles Brown: Those we've got them guarantee to run every week like that's how often we're running and when you see that GT are on our website What that means is that you know you can safely book in that you know it's not going to be cancelled so it's a pretty handy.
00:49:05.670 --> 00:49:13.830
Myles Brown: With azure and probably the the azure fundamentals is like a two day class we run that fairly often and then the azure administration.
00:49:14.220 --> 00:49:26.130
Myles Brown: hazy 104 classes very popular Google cloud similar kind of idea we've got one day fundamentals class and then a three day architect in class, those are the most popular ones.
00:49:27.270 --> 00:49:30.360
Myles Brown: Right, we have a little bit of time left, if there's questions.
00:49:31.980 --> 00:49:40.980
Myles Brown: By the way, my my email address miles round at tech data.com and get certified as part of tech data so that's that's why you see both those names everywhere.
00:49:41.400 --> 00:49:50.610
Myles Brown: And that's why our email addresses but exit certified is really our go to market brand for training next really all we do were a training company that's owned by much bigger.
00:49:51.630 --> 00:49:53.010
Myles Brown: Distribution company.
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Myles Brown: So yeah so Alexander just put in my email address in there that's good thing to to copy down, you may be able to save the chat to get all those links, I think, if you hit the doctor doctor to save chat button hopefully that works for you doesn't work for everybody.
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Myles Brown: But.
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Myles Brown: yeah if you want to throw in questions in the chat you can certainly do some.
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Myles Brown: Okay looks like.
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Myles Brown: Okay, it looks like we have one question that's asking.
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Myles Brown: Which cloud is the easiest to learn I don't I don't know if that's a well that's a tough question I would say that you know, whichever one you learn first it's going to be the hardest okay.
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Myles Brown: And certainly.
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Myles Brown: Those azure and Google cloud they recognize that they're not the market leaders, and so they actually have versions of their courses that are sort of you know, like, if you look in the Google cloud classes there's a.
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Myles Brown: fundamentals class for aws professionals so they're saying hey if you already know aws and you just need to learn what's the differences.
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Myles Brown: We can give you a nice cut down version of the course right, so I think whichever one you try and learn first can be the most difficult but to be honest over time.
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Myles Brown: You know, they all whenever one of them has a good idea, the other ones look and say oh we'll try and incorporate that too right so over time they get closer and closer to one another.
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Myles Brown: What I would say is that.
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Myles Brown: When you're first learning aws they have something called a free tier but it's very much buyer beware, so you got to be careful, because when you launch stuff.
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Myles Brown: If you just let it sit there and run and run and run it's you know your bills piling up, whereas in Google cloud and Microsoft azure they have a free.
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Myles Brown: Free account where basically they won't charge your credit card, they just don't stop letting you do stuff when you're free credits are gone so So those are a little more friendly for first wearing.
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Myles Brown: than the aws one.
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Myles Brown: um any other questions.
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Myles Brown: We just put this back up make sure who's done that promo, so this is pretty handy when we say was oh it's like however many days the classes if it's a one day class it's $100 off if it's two day class it's 200 off.
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Alexandra Macauda: Up to 500.
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Myles Brown: To 545 day.
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Myles Brown: yeah.
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Alexandra Macauda: That makes sense yeah.
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Myles Brown: yeah, so I would say, with aws most of the classes are three day classes, you know there's usually a one day kind of intro.
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Myles Brown: And then, a three day class.
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Myles Brown: With Microsoft azure they tend to be 48 classes.
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Myles Brown: and
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Myles Brown: With all of these classes, we give you access to the labs a little longer, depending on the vendor like but with aws we give you access for three months.
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Myles Brown: To go back and do those labs so you can try them again with azure depends on the course some of you get a 30 day as your past, so you know after class you still have a few weeks, where you can come back and do the labs Google cloud it's usually about two weeks.
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Myles Brown: So, depending on the banner, but you shouldn't have some extra time.
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Myles Brown: And then of course the blog posts are yours for for good.
00:53:53.040 --> 00:53:58.110
Myles Brown: they've all got to eat kids so the books are sort of electronic versions.
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Alexandra Macauda: Any other questions.
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Myles Brown: so far.
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Myles Brown: Most you have any questions you've got my email address miles brown at tech data comm good place ask technical questions if you have questions more about the training, I might refer you to one of our sales people.
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Myles Brown: I said a lot of my time doing sales support kind of.
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Myles Brown: You know when when we have larger opportunities I work with the customers like technical people to find out what exactly do we need to learn right like if you know we take it back to that to that diagram and say you know what, what is your move to the cloud look.
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Myles Brown: Like and try and figure out and instead of just saying okay go take course ABC D from your cloud vendor.
00:54:55.260 --> 00:55:01.290
Myles Brown: You know what you really need to learn, and so we can definitely set up one of those calls if you've got.
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Myles Brown: If you got any kind of needs, but like I said just send me an email and then i'll loop in your sales REP and we'll get it going.
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Myles Brown: we've got languages, training, here too I mean that's not really cloud, I would say, but you know there's certainly some newer.
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Myles Brown: languages that people are trying to brush up on as well, so just like you know we have well over 9500 courses on our website that's not courses that we run regularly, but you know we've got quite as.
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Myles Brown: A network of consultants so whenever somebody comes to us with some brand new technology xyz I might not know it, but you know we'll figure out who knows that and we'll bring them in heaven and we'll make sure that we can get you whatever training, you need.
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Myles Brown: So I think you're probably going to end at this point there doesn't seem to be any more questions.
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Alexandra Macauda: yeah I don't see any other questions on my end as well, but I do just want to say thank you miles for hosting providing us with all this valuable and photos a lot of info.
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Alexandra Macauda: So for anyone that did join the call late, we have recorded this webinar and we will be sending it out tomorrow so keep an eye out for that follow up email, but with that said Thank you again everyone for joining today.
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Myles Brown: Thank you.
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Alexandra Macauda: Have a great day, everyone.